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[06:36] < MS-> Morning

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[07:08] < Lawouach_> morning

[07:08] < MS-> morning

[07:09] < Lawouach_> < iron-maiden mode="on" /> :)

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[19:48] < MS-> This DVB argument that is raging is interesting.

[19:48] < MS-> Leaves the kamaelia DVB components in an interesting position

[19:52] < MS-> my understanding is that it wouldn't break something that just records given pids (which is actually the way I normally use the DVB stuff)

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[19:52] < MS-> But it would break stuff that depends on service information - such as what channel you've got, and what programme is on

[20:25] < vmlemon_> Hi

[20:25] < vmlemon_> For what it's worth, does anyone know what's happening with the FreeSat stuff? Or is there still secrecy around the specification?

[20:25] Reply: Hm?

[20:38] < MS-> vmlemon_: I *think* it's the same thing

[20:39] < vmlemon_> Aah

[20:39] < MS-> But I don't know.

[20:40] < MS-> I think though that there's a secondary issue affecting the freeview HD (or dvbt2) stufff

[20:42] < MS-> All of this stuff certainly leaves our code in an odd place.

[20:42] < MS-> :)

[20:45] *** vmlemon_ has a feeling that things will get interesting, if/when BSkyB switches to DVB-S2

[20:46] < vmlemon_> (Other than obsoleting their entire install base of STBs, I'm sure that developers of various applications will have a field day, trying to reverse-engineer whatever "enhancements"/proprietary features have been implemented)

[20:59] < MS-> That will probably be the interesting point in time