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[07:23] < MS--> morning

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[08:42] < MS--> Uraeus: ping?

[08:42] < Uraeus> hi

[08:43] < MS--> Hiya - got a minute to chat ? (dirac related)

[08:43] < Uraeus> sure

[08:44] < MS--> OK. I had a chat with Tim Borer the other day, and I think I've mentioned before that Dirac is basically a dead duck here now

[08:44] < Uraeus> yeah you did

[08:44] < MS--> ie everyone's effort on it has now been diverted elsewhere.

[08:45] < MS--> Which is a shame :-(

[08:45] < Uraeus> yeah it is :(

[08:45] < MS--> Anyway, as you'd expect, Tim is looking round for someone (company I think) who might be interested in taking up the mantle and pushing it forward

[08:45] < MS--> We bounced round a few ideas, and he was asking if I could think of anyone else who might be able to think of someone who might be

[08:46] < MS--> and I mentioned that you/collabora may know of someone who might take it somewhere.

[08:46] < MS--> Big emphasis on "may" :)

[08:46] < MS--> Just wondering if you had any suggestions really. Xiph appear to be pushing theora, which would suggest not xiph

[08:47] < Uraeus> sell I think Xiph would be open to also take Dirac under their wings, considering that they have multiple audio codecs too

[08:47] < Uraeus> and we are still (slowly) pushing Dirac here at Collabora as part of our PiTiVi effort

[08:48] < Uraeus> which reminds me, we still need to get David Flynn to send us his notes on Dirac in MXF so we can complete that effort

[08:49] *** MS-- nods

[08:49] < Uraeus> but I think in terms of having another organisation take on the banner carrying for Dirac I do think Xiph.org is probably the best chance, unless a commercial actor with deep pockets can be found

[08:49] < MS--> The other name that came up was maybe google - for that sort of reason - but they did recently buy On2

[08:50] < MS--> which given the history of theora made me wonder what they planned to do with On2

[08:50] < Uraeus> hmm, didn't know that, but Google would have been a great choice indeed

[08:50] < MS--> FWIW, Xiph was the first place I suggested to Tim

[08:51] < Uraeus> Mozilla foundation would be another worthwhile choice, but I don't think they want to get involved on that level

[08:52] < MS--> I don't think so either.

[08:52] < MS--> OK, thanks for the sanity check :)

[08:52] < Uraeus> MS--: if you see david flynn around could you please put some pressure on him to get us the Dirac in MXF notes, I think in getting traction for Dirac, getting some movement in the editing field is still a good way forward

[08:52] < MS--> Will do.

[08:53] < MS--> I'll prod him on an IRC channel though since he's on the other side of the country :)

[08:53] < MS--> I wonder what Adobe would make of dirac ?

[08:53] < MS--> They'd resisted it for various reasons in the past, but if they pwned it?

[08:54] < MS--> That could be an interesting route thinking about it

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