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[04:32] < Lawouach_> morning

[05:54] < MS-> morning

[05:56] < Lawouach_> hi MS-

[06:46] *** MS- is happy at breaking the BMI:30 barrier :-)

[06:46] < Lawouach_> saw that yeah

[06:46] < Lawouach_> congrats

[06:46] < Lawouach_> that's quite an achievement

[06:48] < MS-> Cheers :)

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[07:59] < MS-> Oh that's nasty. One half of a date represented one way, and another half in BCD

[08:00] < MS-> What nutter came up with that I wonder

[08:00] < MS-> takes up more space than a 32 bit UTC timestamp too ftw

[09:30] < Lawouach_> back

[09:34] < MS-> Hi

[09:45] < MS-> I see FOSDEM has been announced for next year. Doesn't conflict with family stuff, so I wonder if I can arrange to go

[09:45] < MS-> (negotiation with work really)

[09:46] < MS-> Ah cool it's the weekend

[09:51] < Lawouach_> I went this year

[09:51] < Lawouach_> It's quite fun but almost overwhelming so large it can get

[09:51] < Lawouach_> That being said, it has a really informal feeling

[09:52] < MS-> Cool. I've been to OSCON, and whilst that was fun/interesting, there was an element of "I'm at a conference, not to mingle"

[09:53] < Lawouach_> ah well not at FOSDEM

[09:53] < MS-> :)

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[11:04] < MS-> afternoon davbo

[11:34] < MS-> back soon

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[17:34] < MS-> davbo: Just so you know I'm working on reworking your branch to get it, or parts of it, ready for merge.

[17:38] < Davbo> anything i can do MS-?

[17:39] < MS-> I'm OK with doing it, just wanted to let you know I'm doing this - in case you wanted to watch the checkin notes to see the sorts of things I'm changing

[17:39] < MS-> ie in case you're curious more than anything :)

[17:39] < MS-> Easiest way to see this sort of thing BTW is via here: http://code.google.com/p/kamaelia/source/list

[17:40] < Davbo> cool, pleased to hear it anyway

[17:40] < MS-> I thought that might be the case

[17:40] *** Davbo is having fun keeping database migrations in version control

[17:41] < MS-> I wasn't aware for example of the icon based buttons, which once they're in Kamaelia.Apps.GSOCPaint will be usable in other apps

[17:41] < MS-> I'd been running some bad versions, clearly

[17:41] < MS-> The branch will also need to be duplicated before merge and deleted, because of the way the branch was made I think.

[17:41] < MS-> but that's a minor detail

[17:43] < Davbo> I made a little note of an attribution for those icons btw

[17:43] < MS-> I saw that. It's that sort of thing as well which I'm tidying up

[17:44] < MS-> The gfxcursor code for example

[17:44] < Davbo> yeah

[17:44] < Davbo> thought that was a nice bit of code

[17:45] < MS-> Indeed, but unknown licensing, so we need to handle it outside the packaging tree - cf : http://code.google.com/p/kamaelia/source/browse/branches/private_DK_PaintDev/Apps/GSOCPaint/

[17:45] < Davbo> ah i see

[17:45] < MS-> I know that the author wouldn't mind, having been around the pygame list for a long time, it's good to sort things out seperately

[17:45] < Davbo> any word from the beeb about relicensing?

[17:46] < MS-> I've got a good working relationship with the BBC's lawyers, which helps, so I've asked the question, and had acknowledgement that they'll look at it

[17:46] < MS-> Likewise they also respect my knowledge around open source

[17:47] < MS-> I'm not rushing them on it

[17:47] < MS-> I'd *like* it to be done in a couple/few weeks

[17:47] < MS-> But knowing the Beeb, I'll be happy if it's before october :-)

[17:47] < Davbo> hehe

[17:48] < MS-> These 3 files control the packaging BTW: http://code.google.com/p/kamaelia/source/browse/branches/private_DK_PaintDev/Apps/GSOCPaint/DistBuild/

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