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[07:03] < Lawouach_> morning

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[09:46] < MS-> greetings

[10:01] < aa_> MS-: have you seen this thing "Circuits"?

[10:01] < MS-> yep

[10:01] < aa_> of course you have

[10:02] < aa_> MS-: seems you were way ahead of your time, but loads of people are clamouring into the domain now

[10:02] < MS-> Well, the aim was to try and get concurrency easier to use, by trying out ideas. If it encourages others to do the same, or similar, that's success

[10:03] < MS-> need to revisit the scheduler quite badly IMO

[10:04] < MS-> At minimum to find out why it performs the way it does

[10:04] < MS-> In theory it should be better than it is

[10:06] < aa_> MS-: that benchmark you pasted seemd pretty good

[10:06] < aa_> MS-: though I have lost the link

[10:06] < MS-> http://entitycrisis.blogspot.com/2009/03/concurrent-scaling-benchmarks.html

[10:07] < MS-> I don't really view being the worst case on that graph as being an appropriate place to be :)

[10:10] < MS-> but the silver lining is that it does say that there can be optimisations that jump that way

[10:13] < aa_> MS-: if you want a giggle: http://shortcircuit.net.au/~prologic/twisted.pdf

[10:13] < aa_> it's a twisted dependency graph

[10:14] < MS-> Now *that* would be more fun with Kamaelia

[10:14] < MS-> Esp. considering I'm planning on moving Graphline/Pipeline/etc into Axon.

[10:14] < MS-> Since they're components useful in almost any system. Whereas (say) PygameDisplay isn't useful in everything

[10:15] < aa_> right

[10:15] *** MS- waits for the pdf to render

[10:15] < MS-> wow

[10:15] < MS-> It has wires twisted everywhere!

[10:15] < MS-> ba-dum-tish

[10:15] < aa_> MS-: it's a giggle because I couldn't render it in any pdf viewer on a hugely powerful machine with a lot of ram

[10:15] < MS-> heh

[10:15] < aa_> MS-: and if you can render it, please tell me which viewer

[10:16] < MS-> kpdf

[10:16] < aa_> tried okular

[10:16] < aa_> the process reminded me of my first mandelbrot on a beeb

[10:16] < MS-> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND

[10:16] < MS-> 6602 michaels 15 0 47408 20m 15m S 0 1.0 0:12.57 kpdf

[10:16] < MS-> :)

[10:17] < aa_> nice

[10:17] < MS-> now trying acrobat

[10:17] < MS-> That loads as well, but slower

[10:18] < MS-> wonder what open office makes of it

[10:18] < MS-> (accidentally discovered that open office can open PDFs for editting)

[10:18] < aa_> wow

[10:18] < aa_> no doubt "badly"

[10:19] < MS-> Hm, it does open it

[10:21] < MS-> Looks a complete mess mind

[10:21] < MS-> (no anti aliasing)

[10:30] < MS-> Mind you, in a way, the Axon Visualiser shows us the run time dependencies of each app really :)

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[16:31] < ramakrishnannk> hello

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