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[12:59] < MS-> been playing with an RFID tag reader & python over the past couple of days. Will probably post a blog post about how to do this nicely and how to combine with Kamaelia.

[13:00] < MS-> The kamaelia transform is really trivial, but opens up some quite fun things

[13:00] < aa_> MS-: hah, I have been doing that too!

[13:00] < aa_> MS-: which reader?

[13:00] < MS-> Tikitag

[13:00] < aa_> except I have been using it with Twisted, not Kamaelia :(

[13:00] < aa_> oh, I bought one from um.. somethingy-widgety-somename

[13:01] < MS-> Naive componentisation is as simple as this:

[13:01] < MS-> http://groups.google.com/group/kamaelia/msg/3b2db2e80d37b667

[13:01] < aa_> that's cool, rfid is cool

[13:02] < MS-> From there, it's a small hop to this:

[13:02] < MS-> http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/msg/30725ea0f916336f

[13:02] < MS-> which would be "controlling the simplest possible presentation tool using RFID tags"

[13:13] < aa_> MS-: on a slightly similar topic, I also had a good play with some contactless chip and pin devices

[13:17] < MS-> cool

[13:19] < aa_> you know those things have publickey privatekey pairs on them

[13:19] < aa_> and the private key is generated on-chip and never leaves the chip

[13:19] < aa_> and the pin is your passphrase

[13:19] < aa_> clever really :)

[13:19] *** MS- nods

[13:19] < MS-> That's the way the TCPA stuff works

[13:20] < aa_> right

[13:20] < aa_> trust is interesting

[13:20] < MS-> I think the tikitag reader has something similar built in btw

[13:21] < MS-> but that's not as easy to hack at present

[13:21] < MS-> sadly

[13:21] < aa_> does it come with python libs

[13:22] < MS-> Nope. Only comes with windows/mac downloads, but that's not stopped people :)

[13:22] < aa_> hah

[13:22] < MS-> I'm using this code - which uses libusb directly - https://projects.nesl.ucla.edu/view/viewcvs.cgi/tikitag/trunk/pytiki/

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[15:58] < Lawouach> evening folks

[16:26] < MS-> evening

[16:29] < Lawouach> hi mate

[16:29] < Lawouach> how are you?

[16:31] < MS-> I'm pretty good actually. Last week was manic - writing up stupid amounts of docs for work which will probably never be read by anyone ( :-/ ), preceded by being off ill with antibiotics, and avoiding things generally as a result

[16:32] < MS-> Back to normal now though :-)

[16:32] < MS-> Got myself a new toy - http://www.tikitag.com/ - which is fun so far (RFID reader + tags - all with 75% off :) )

[16:32] < MS-> etc

[16:32] < MS-> and yourself?

[16:33] < MS-> Saw you had a sore throat - how's that?

[16:33] < Lawouach> still sour :)

[16:33] < Lawouach> that's mainly annyoing and tiring but not that bad

[16:34] < Lawouach> the tikitag looks great

[16:34] *** MS- nods

[16:34] < MS-> It's fun. It's a pity they've sold out, but at the price it was worth a punt :)

[16:34] < MS-> Makes a perfect foil for kamaelia too I've realised

[16:35] < Lawouach> sold out!

[16:35] < Lawouach> dang

[16:36] < MS-> indeed :-/ Looks like they're getting more in (probably branded differently) in March by the sounds of things

[16:36] < Lawouach> damn I want one now :)

[16:37] < Lawouach> probably worth trying ebay

[16:37] < MS-> It wouldn't surprise me to see them there, given that they were so heavily discounted

[16:37] < MS-> Someone probably thought "I'll buy a load and ebay them"

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[17:44] < vmlemon_> Hi

[17:45] < MS-> evening

[17:47] < vmlemon_> The TikiTag stuff sounds interesting

[17:51] < MS-> It's quite nice

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[19:01] < MS-> Hm, It'd be really neat to be able to run a single component as a different user

[19:04] < MS-> That's like saying "it'd be nice to run this one function as another user" though, which is a bit moon on a stick

[19:39] < vmlemon_> Haha, http://i.friendfeed.com/4e83b341c7cab13302be4b4b75f37fc688c5f05e

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