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[06:25] < vmlemon_> Hi

[08:00] < MS-> greetings

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[09:00] < MS-> Sick and tired of BBC Bullshit around "open"

[09:01] < MS-> All this rush to be "more open" and no bugger actually seems to talk to anyone outside of their own little bubble

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[11:10] < vmlemon_> Hi

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[14:56] < vmlemon_> Hi

[15:02] < MS-> afternoon

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[15:37] *** MS- ponders rewriting the logbot

[15:37] < MS-> Reverse the order of the text and you have something that looks like twit

[15:42] < vmlemon_> Re(t)Twit?

[16:01] < Lawouach_> evening

[16:02] < vmlemon_> Hi Lawouach

[16:10] < Lawouach_> you made it :)

[16:11] < vmlemon_> Eh?

[16:11] < Lawouach_> http://twitter.com/vmlemon/status/1013173328

[16:12] < vmlemon_> I'm still sitting at a bench outside waiting for said salvation ;)

[16:13] < Lawouach_> crap!

[16:13] < vmlemon_> Shouldn't be too long now

[16:13] < Lawouach_> that being said, how do you connect to the net right now?

[16:13] < Lawouach_> wifi, 3G?

[16:14] < vmlemon_> (They said 20 minutes or so when I rang)

[16:14] < vmlemon_> GPRS

[16:15] < Lawouach_> ok

[16:15] < Lawouach_> which provider?

[16:15] < vmlemon_> On the handset itself at the mo

[16:16] < Lawouach_> right, but what is your phone provider?

[16:16] < vmlemon_> Orange at the moment, although I have a 3 UMTS SIM card too

[16:17] < Lawouach_> okay

[16:17] < Lawouach_> and what are your handset and IRC mobile application?

[16:18] < vmlemon_> (I SIM swap as a tradeoff between high(er) speed connectivity, and reachability for calls and SMS and cheap, semi-reliable low-speed)

[16:19] < vmlemon_> Nokia N70 and mIRGGI

[16:20] < Lawouach_> okay

[16:20] < Lawouach_> I have a Nokia 6500 slide

[16:20] < Lawouach_> my phone provider offers me free web access (3G)

[16:20] < Lawouach_> but the handset isn't made for that kind of typing

[16:21] < Lawouach_> I'd need a N95 or a dedicated keyboard :)

[16:21] < vmlemon_> Cool

[16:21] < vmlemon_> Aah

[16:21] < elvum> the E71 keyboard is pretty good

[16:22] < vmlemon_> I'm happy with the keypad on it, although the numerical entry pad is fairly small

[16:22] < Lawouach_> elvum: will look it up

[16:24] < vmlemon_> (I can still type with a fair amount of accuracy, even with my large, clumsy fingers though)

[16:26] < vmlemon_> Lawouach_: Managed to get a lift from a family member, so all is well

[16:26] < Lawouach_> :)

[16:34] < vmlemon_> Ugh, looks like the battery's running out

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[19:00] < vmlemon_> Hi

[19:22] < vmlemon_> kamlogbot: dance

[19:22] Reply: does the macarena

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[20:48] < vmlemon_> Haha, Microsoft offering "free" anti-virus software soon

[20:48] < vmlemon_> How ironic

[20:48] *** vmlemon_ thinks they should just fix the damn flaws so that it isn't needed

[22:01] < elvum> I'm with tony hoare on this one - perfect software is a myth, and we should learn to live with that :-)

[23:48] < MS-> elvum: I'd like to build mythological software then

[23:48] < MS-> :-)