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[08:40] < vmlemon_> Hi

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[17:12] < Lawouach> evening all

[17:12] < vmlemon_> Hi Lawouach

[17:12] < Lawouach> hi there

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[17:32] < Rigolo> good evening ...

[17:33] < vmlemon_> Hi Rigolo

[17:33] < Rigolo> hee vmlemon_ ... I'm a bit like you now ...

[17:33] < Rigolo> (connected via UMTS that is :-)

[17:34] < vmlemon_> Hah, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/04/openoffice_three_dot_o_review/

[17:34] < Rigolo> I will loose my connection any minute now

[17:34] < vmlemon_> One of the more amusing reviews of it I've seen

[17:36] < vmlemon_> No other connectivity where you are?

[17:36] < Rigolo> http://rigolo.googlepages.com/kamaelia

[17:36] < vmlemon_> Ooh

[17:36] < vmlemon_> Cool

[17:36] < Rigolo> nope ... In the train at the moment :-)

[17:37] *** vmlemon_ pings ;)

[17:37] < Rigolo> but now i have full signal strength it looks like

[17:37] < vmlemon_> 217 ms latency, not bad

[17:37] < Rigolo> the first half of the trip home is bad .. from now on it should be good

[17:38] < Rigolo> well ... what did you ping :-)

[17:38] < vmlemon_> Beats my 379 msec

[17:38] < vmlemon_> cc14973-d.zwoll1.ov.home.nl

[17:38] < vmlemon_> Unless that's just a giant NAT

[17:38] < Rigolo> well .. that is my home machine .. on a 16Mbit/3Mbit cable internet line

[17:38] < vmlemon_> Aah

[17:38] < Rigolo> I am logged in via ssh :-)

[17:39] < vmlemon_> OK

[17:39] < Rigolo> and my UMTS is behind a giant NAT .... :-)

[17:39] < vmlemon_> Same here :(

[17:39] < vmlemon_> Probably explains the low latency :)

[17:39] < Rigolo> trying to have that changed .. but that will take a while

[17:40] < Rigolo> a ping from this laptop to talk.google.com gives me 135ms

[17:40] < Rigolo> when I have a good signal ... and will go up to 4000 + when it is bad again

[17:41] < Rigolo> and switching towers or moving from 3G to 2G or the other way also gives a small hickup

[17:41] < vmlemon_> Ugh

[17:42] < vmlemon_> I just get disconnected when mode switching, since 3 don't have their own GSM infrastructure

[17:42] < Rigolo> now I have -84dBm .. so that is good

[17:42] < vmlemon_> (They use O2 and Orange's)

[17:42] < vmlemon_> *O2's

[17:42] < vmlemon_> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms

[17:42] < vmlemon_> (Also to talk.google.com)

[17:42] < Rigolo> sounds like fun :-)

[17:43] < Rigolo> and that is via 2G?

[17:43] < vmlemon_> 259, 270, 266 for msec

[17:43] < vmlemon_> Solid UMTS here now

[17:43] < vmlemon_> (5 bars on my phone's signal indicator)

[17:43] < Rigolo> Ping statistics for 209.85.137.125: Packets: Sent = 1101, Received = 1016, Lost = 85 (7% loss),

[17:43] < Rigolo> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 100ms, Maximum = 4372ms, Average = 262ms

[17:43] < vmlemon_> Sounds fun

[17:44] < Rigolo> as you can see ... it varies :-)

[17:44] < vmlemon_> Yup

[17:44] < vmlemon_> It usually tanks when I'm on 2G/GPRS

[17:44] < Rigolo> next week I am going to get my HSDPA modem working under ubuntu and then I will get my GPS also hooked up and make nice coverage maps :-)

[17:44] < vmlemon_> And I usually only get about 3 bars :|

[17:45] < vmlemon_> Cool

[17:45] < vmlemon_> Should be simple enough

[17:45] < Rigolo> and then I will complain to our network provider

[17:45] < vmlemon_> KPPP is nice, I've found

[17:45] *** Rigolo works for a MVNO :-)

[17:45] < Rigolo> networkmanager 0.7 in intrepid works out of the box :-)

[17:45] *** vmlemon_ ended up using a generic modem script/set of AT/Hayes commands obtained from a poorly translated document for Motorola phones in Italian

[17:45] < Rigolo> at least .. it should .. when I swap my ttyUSB0 and 2 around

[17:46] < vmlemon_> Heh

[17:46] < Rigolo> I have a sierra wireless card inside my laptop .. no things sticking out ot PCMCIA ports

[17:49] < Rigolo> but ... I have documented my adventures installing Kamaelia with dvb support on my page

[17:49] < Rigolo> so if people want to try it out .. there it is listed how I installed it

[17:58] < Rigolo> mmm still connected?

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[18:03] < vmlemon_> Meh, just got throttled off the network, and couldn't reconnect

[18:03] < Rigolo> and I lost connection also

[18:04] < Rigolo> surprised that my stil connected message got through .. I never saw that one :-)

[18:06] < vmlemon_> Ended up having to fight with the S60 Connection Manager, and both Bluetooth implementations to get it to reconnect, too :(

[18:06] < vmlemon_> o.O http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/03/zdnet_typo/

[18:11] < Rigolo> mmm nice catch :-)

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[20:08] < Rigolo> evening ... back

[20:09] < vmlemon_> Hi again

[20:10] < Rigolo> very quiet again here :-)

[20:46] *** Rigolo is going to bed ... normal work day again in the morning

[21:00] < vmlemon_> See you Rigolo

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[22:08] < vmlemon_> Hi Uraeus

[22:11] < vmlemon_> kamlogbot: dance

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