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[09:54] < vmlemon_> Hi

[10:12] < vmlemon_> Anyone know what the latest version of ETSI EN 300 468 is?

[10:12] Reply: Hm?

[10:13] < vmlemon_> Google gives me either V1.5.1 or V1.7.1

[10:15] < elvum> 1.8.1

[10:15] < vmlemon_> Thanks, elvum

[10:15] < elvum> try http://pda.etsi.org/pda/home.asp?wki_id=e_E.gyXzl8y@,_,,gGlMd

[10:15] < vmlemon_> Looking now

[10:15] < elvum> or navigate your way to standards downloads from www.etsi.org

[10:17] < vmlemon_> Downloading it now

[10:17] < elvum> enjoy :-)

[10:18] < vmlemon_> Looks like the other one's from 2007, and the front cover is different

[10:18] < vmlemon_> Shouldn't have any bearing on the content, though

[10:19] < elvum> the stuff from the etsi website is authoritative, but any new stuff may not be reflected in what you receive over the air...

[10:19] < vmlemon_> Aah, 1.7.1 and now 1.8.1

[10:19] < vmlemon_> Aah

[10:19] < vmlemon_> Out of interest, is the fp.bbc.co.uk stuff related to TVAnytime?

[10:20] < vmlemon_> Or is that something else, since some of my TS files are peppered with it?

[10:20] *** vmlemon_ sees that subtitle padding/dummy packets are sometimes sent, too

[10:23] < mhrd> vmlemon_ : fp.bbc.co.uk ... yes

[10:24] < mhrd> though I'm not 100% sure exactly how yet ... but will probably be finding out over coming weeks due to current work areas

[10:48] *** vmlemon_ looks for a copy of ETSI TS 102 323

[10:51] < vmlemon_> Aah, found it

[11:43] < elvum> aren't those the CRIDs used for series linking on freeview?

[11:44] < vmlemon_> Hmm, not sure

[11:44] < vmlemon_> I wonder how it relates to the new Freeview Playback stuff

[11:44] < elvum> if I'm right, then that's the stuff I'm talking about

[11:45] < vmlemon_> They're probably CRIDs, though

[11:45] < elvum> the freeview playback signalling is iirc bits of tv-anytime incorporated into the EIT table structure

[11:45] < elvum> but I don't know the details

[11:46] < vmlemon_> Shame that ETSI have split the stuff about TVAnytime into about 10 different documents...

[11:46] < vmlemon_> (Most of them benchmarks)

[11:46] < vmlemon_> Hah, http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=876923

[11:47] < elvum> cf PBS in the states

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[17:37] < Lawouach> http://jessenoller.com/2008/10/29/actors-concurrency-and-kamaelia/ < -- interesting

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[19:36] *** Rigolo will be busy with other things tonight and tomorrow. The weekend is for Kamaelia again

[19:36] < vmlemon_> Hi