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[08:52] < MS-> morning

[09:00] < Lawouach> morning

[09:00] < Lawouach> how were your holiday MS-?

[09:01] < MS-> It was good thanks. Was a more or less complete break from everything - including online stuff - which was really refreshing.

[09:01] < Lawouach> yeah I bet

[09:01] < MS-> Went away to wales for a week halfway through, and then did lots of random stuff since

[09:02] < MS-> Took 6 hours to get there mind.

[09:02] < MS-> Due to the wonders of British Rail :)

[09:02] < Lawouach> :)

[09:02] < MS-> Was expecting that though, so that was fun too :)

[09:03] < Lawouach> great for sight viewing though... I mean the train stop in nearly every villages :)

[09:03] < MS-> Indeed - an it did literally do that :)

[09:03] < Lawouach> :)

[09:03] < MS-> How's things been for you?

[09:04] < Lawouach> When I lived in Reading I used to take the express when I was in a hurry but I would gladly take the long train from Waterloo though Ascot the morning after. It helpes soothing the headache that slow pace :)

[09:04] < Lawouach> Things are doing fine

[09:04] < Lawouach> I wouldn't mind having a break like yours but it's not as easy

[09:05] *** MS- nods

[09:05] < Lawouach> In France you don't start a job with your full set of holiday

[09:06] < MS-> I see

[09:06] < Lawouach> You basically earn them every month for the year after

[09:06] < Lawouach> Since I've started my job 6 months ago, I don't have much to spare

[09:06] < MS-> Oh, that's interesting - in the UK when you start a new job, you normally get a certain amount pro rate

[09:06] < MS-> pro rata even

[09:06] < Lawouach> Also, being single means I'm free of my errands but that means that I don't share them with anyone... not fun

[09:06] < MS-> Oh hold on, forgot for a moment you'd worked here :)

[09:07] < Lawouach> :X

[09:07] < MS-> Just ignore that :)

[09:07] < MS-> (in the UK)

[09:07] < Lawouach> no worries

[09:07] < Lawouach> In any case I had good fun most weekends this summer with friends

[09:07] < Lawouach> But I wish I could escape somewhere

[09:07] < MS-> That's cool :)

[09:07] < Lawouach> I was looking at Scotland for instance

[09:08] < MS-> Edinburgh is nice.

[09:08] < MS-> I've only ever been there on work, but always managed to tag at least a day or 2 on either side when I've been up.

[09:08] < MS-> East coast is drier than west :)

[09:08] < Lawouach> I've heard plenty of good stuff about the city yeah

[09:09] < Lawouach> But I would also look at visiting the landscape further up North and West

[09:09] < MS-> Joke about the Isle of Skye is they tell the season by the angle of the rain :)

[09:09] < MS-> \\\ == summer

[09:09] < MS-> ------ === winter

[09:09] < Lawouach> lol

[09:32] < Lawouach> MS-, how's spam hunting going BTW?

[09:32] < MS-> Oh, I could feed the 5000 with this much spam

[09:32] < MS-> and their families

[09:35] < MS-> The amusing thing is that my email is filtered by two separate spam systems at work before it hits my inbox :-)

[09:35] < MS-> Both clearly as useful as each other ;)

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[10:23] < Lawouach_> back

[10:24] < Lawouach_> MS-: once you'll have finished with getting back on sync' with your online life, could you explain me how the mentor's payment works. I'm rather lost and from what I've seen going on the mentors' list, I'm not the only one :)

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[11:38] < Chong-> Hey MS-. Have you been back from holiday?

[11:39] < MS-> Hi Chong - yep I'm back - how's things?

[11:39] *** MS- is still despamming his work email, hoping to get to less than 3000 (to go) before going for food

[11:40] < MS-> Lawouach_: Will mail you off list

[11:40] < MS-> :)

[11:40] < Chong-> It seems you have had a very good holiday :-). I just catched up with the logs.

[11:41] < Chong-> It goes well. I and others have tagged our gsoc work to branches_gsoc2008.

[11:41] < MS-> to be honest I think I could happily have another 3 weeks holiday if I could :)

[11:41] < Lawouach_> MS-: ta

[11:42] < MS-> Chong-: cool - I'll have a look at that soon. (probably today or tomorrow)

[11:42] < Chong-> hehe. holiday is always short and passes very quickly :-)

[11:42] < Chong-> MS-: cool :-)

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[11:43] < MS-> yay, under 3000 now

[11:44] < vmlemon_> Hi

[11:45] < Chong-> there are almost 300 spams every day. That's very hot :D

[11:46] < Chong-> afternoon, vmlemon_

[11:46] < vmlemon_> Hi Chong-

[11:46] < vmlemon_> (He says, whilst getting part of the piece of toast he's eating lodged in a tooth) :(

[11:46] < MS-> Chong-: No, I'm more than halfway through them now.

[11:46] < MS-> (came back to nearly 7000 spams)

[11:47] < MS-> (at work this is, at home very few at all)

[11:47] < vmlemon_> Phew, no PayPal messages asking me to pay for 5 Bluetooth adaptors

[11:48] < vmlemon_> (I ended up going through a "precheckout" form on a site about 5 times, and never got an order confirmation, and of them)

[11:48] < vmlemon_> *on any

[11:49] < Chong-> MS-: I see. Even more.;) BBC is very popular for spams. My university e-mail can also receive dozens of spams every day.

[11:49] < vmlemon_> Hmm, a new "BBC Spam" division could be starting soon, then? ;)

[11:50] < vmlemon_> (Whether it sends them, or receives them is unknown, but leave it to your imagination) ;)

[11:52] < vmlemon_> kamlogbot: ecky

[11:52] Reply: Ptang!

[11:53] < Chong-> vmlemon_: maybe it has double sides :P

[11:54] < vmlemon_> It sends spam to itself? ;)

[11:54] < Chong-> vmlemon_: That's one posibility :-)

[12:08] *** vmlemon_ wonders what the 4IP thing is that's getting thrown around the Backstage mailing list at the moment

[12:08] < MS-> It's a channel 4 thing about putting forward money to invest in online ideas

[12:09] < MS-> Channel 4 don't make many (any?) programmes themselves and have it all (more or less) commissioned from the indie sector.

[12:09] < vmlemon_> Aah

[12:09] < MS-> My guess is that the rationale behind 4IP is a similar idea

[12:09] < MS-> I've only seen stuff on the backstage list about it though and looked at their website :)

[12:09] < vmlemon_> Aren't they a semi-public service broadcaster?

[12:10] < vmlemon_> (or at least a "full" one funded by ads)

[12:10] < MS-> Yep, government has a 51% ownership stake IIRC

[12:11] < MS-> But they don't get any money from the license fee AIUI, so it's commercially funded, but with a remit of serving minority groups

[12:11] < MS-> Never quite figured out how big brother fits in with that goal myself :)

[12:12] < MS-> IIRC the original complaint about channel 4 is that its remit is what BBC 2 was set up to do.

[12:12] < vmlemon_> Prolly explains why they tend to show a lot of Korean and Indian movies late at night, or at least have done on the very few occasions that I've watched that late

[12:12] < MS-> Also explains the scifi as well

[12:12] < MS-> which they've generally done a *bit* of over the years

[12:12] < vmlemon_> (Not that I tend to watch much TV these days, but there you go)

[12:12] < MS-> (ie in terms of buying stuff that others don't)

[12:14] < vmlemon_> Nice, I ended up waking to the sound of one of the cats knocking a cup off my desk, and smashing it

[12:31] < vmlemon_> I've just figured why they broadcast Big Brother now - it's so naff and unbelievably boring, that a large minority watch it ;)

[12:32] < vmlemon_> (So it fits in with their remit goals ;) )

[12:38] < vmlemon_> Still, I remember reading something where one of the Channel 4 folks called it a "soap opera", so it sounds about right

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