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[09:47] < vmlemon_> Your code is probably better than what little I've written...

[09:47] *** MS- changed the topic to Don't forget you can ask questions on the mailing list as well | Project Wiki here: http://edit.kamaelia.org/RecentChanges u/p : wiki/wiki | Next weekly meeting 4pm 17th July 2008 | Don't ask to ask, just ask | channel is logged: http://edit.kamaelia.org/logs/ (logbot is moving)

[09:48] < vmlemon_> Yay, kamaeliabot reincarnated

[09:48] < vmlemon_> kamlogbot: dance

[09:48] Reply: does the macarena

[09:48] < vmlemon_> Or just back from it's 0 millisecond snooze?

[09:49] < MS-> From it's perspective, yes :)

[09:49] < wyleu> funnily enough I called it juggling.

[09:49] < vmlemon_> nanosleep()...

[09:52] < vmlemon_> Meh, 10GB of transport stream files scattered around my 2nd disk already...

[09:52] < MS-> Hmm. Intriguing. The logbot isn't getting ping messages, nor is it logging anything said

[09:52] < MS-> Very odd

[09:52] < vmlemon_> kamlogbot: poke

[09:52] Reply: Not the eye! Not the eye!

[09:52] < MS-> Clearly "hearing" things though

[09:52] < vmlemon_> Hmm, is it logging in the wrong directory?

[09:53] < MS-> Well the file "http://edit.kamaelia.org/logs/kamaelia-test2008-07-26_log.html" which is there was created by the logbot, so it'll be something else

[09:53] < MS-> I'll figure that out in a little while

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[09:53] < MS-> Copying the older logs over at the moment

[09:54] *** MS- is now known as ms-munch

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[10:30] < vmlemon_> Looks like the log contains some data now

[10:30] < vmlemon_> Not sure what was wrong earlier, though

[10:36] < Lawouach> hello folks

[10:36] < ms-munch> afternoon

[10:36] < ms-munch> hm. My google code checkout at home is still going ...

[10:37] < ms-munch> started over an hour ago

[10:40] < Lawouach> weird

[10:40] < Lawouach> you have a good connection?

[10:41] < ms-munch> Yeah I have a good connection, this is really really slow

[10:41] < Lawouach> weird

[11:00] < ms-munch> still going...

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[11:17] < ms-munch> I think code.google is sponsored by Duracell

[11:17] < ms-munch> checkouts keep going

[11:17] < ms-munch> and going

[11:17] < ms-munch> and going

[11:17] < ms-munch> long after other checkouts would be finished

[11:18] *** ms-munch kills it and restarts it

[11:53] < ms-munch> great, it's left it's checkout in a bade way

[11:53] < ms-munch> s/bade/bad

[11:57] *** ms-munch is forced to rm -rf a large chunk before restarting

[12:07] < ms-munch> yay, checkout crashed

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[12:15] < ms-munch> Finally! It's done the branches!

[12:15] < ms-munch> Moved onto tags

[12:15] < ms-munch> Only taken nearly 3 hours so far

[12:15] < ms-munch> I really don't understand why they're so slow

[12:15] < vmlemon_> Wow, speedy

[12:15] < vmlemon_> Slower than SourceFarce? ;)

[12:16] < ms-munch> Not sure

[12:19] *** vmlemon_ goes to download a new copy of FFMPEG

[13:07] < ms-munch> Took it 3 hours in the end

[13:07] < ms-munch> That's just silly

[13:07] < ms-munch> OK, it's the entire repo, but that's terrible

[13:08] *** ms-munch tries svn co https://kamaelia.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/kamaelia instead

[13:10] < ms-munch> kamlogbot: poke

[13:10] Reply: Not the eye! Not the eye!

[13:11] < ms-munch> wierd,

[13:11] < ms-munch> just took it a very long time to start dumping stuff

[13:12] < ms-munch> Sourceforge definitely seems faster at the moment

[13:36] < ms-munch> 20-25 minutes

[13:36] < ms-munch> vs 3 hours

[13:36] < ms-munch> That's pretty conclusive in my eyes

[13:36] < ms-munch> Also, it didn't fail (at all, let alone repeatedly) during that 3 hours

[13:36] < ms-munch> That's really pretty extreme

[13:37] *** vmlemon_ wonders if that'll change again soon

[13:59] < ms-munch> indeed

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[16:16] < vmlemon_> Hmm, any problems/issues to expect if I try to record data from several multiplexes into a single TS file (e.g. with FileAppender)?

[16:16] < vmlemon_> kamlogbot: dance

[16:16] Reply: does the macarena

[16:22] < vmlemon_> Although I suspect having multiple versions of the same table would cause conflicts/end up clobbering the others...

[19:19] < ms-munch> kamlogbot: poke

[19:19] Reply: Not the eye! Not the eye!

[19:19] < ms-munch> kamlogbot: dance

[19:19] Reply: does the macarena

[19:20] < ms-munch> kamlogbot: help

[19:20] Reply: Name: kamlogbot Channel: #kamaelia

[19:20] Reply: I do a simple job -- recording all channel traffic.

[19:20] Reply: Lines prefixed by [off] won't get recorded

[19:20] Reply: I respond to the following: 'logfile', 'infofile', 'help', 'date', 'time', 'dance', 'poke', 'slap', 'ecky', 'boo', and 'reload {modulename}'.

[19:20] < ms-munch> kamlogbot: infofile

[19:20] Reply: /srv/www/sites/edit.kamaelia.org/docs/logs/kamaelia2008-07-26_info.html

[19:20] < ms-munch> kamlogbot: slap

[19:20] Reply: Ouch!

[19:20] < ms-munch> kamlogbot: time

[19:20] Reply: 19:20:22

[19:20] < ms-munch> bzzzt

[19:20] < ms-munch> kamlogbot: ecky

[19:20] Reply: Ptang!

[19:20] < ms-munch> kamlogbot: boo

[19:20] Reply: Nice try, but that didn't scare me

[19:20] < ms-munch> kamlogbot: date

[19:20] Reply: 2008-07-26

[19:20] < ms-munch> at least that's right...

[19:42] < Lawouach> http://www.defuze.org/oss/jlib/screenshots/ < -- I've updated some of the jlib screenshots

[19:42] < Lawouach> Those show jlib connected via XMPP (henc headstock and Kamaelia) to the BBC radiolabs testing XMPP server

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[20:00] < vmlemon_> Hi

[20:02] < vmlemon_> kamlogbot: dance

[20:02] Reply: does the macarena

[20:27] < ms-munch> Lawouach: cool

[20:38] < vmlemon_> kamlogbot: ecky

[20:38] Reply: Ptang!

[20:39] *** vmlemon_ wonders how easy it would be to integrate something like Eliza or MegaHAL with the bot code...

[20:42] < ms-munch> I've got a markov chain component kicking around somewhere

[20:43] < ms-munch> as a protocol handler

[20:43] < ms-munch> Fundamentally it's a matter of stuff in/stuff out

[20:43] < ms-munch> the rest kinda takes care of itself

[20:43] < ms-munch> replace stdin with an inbox and stdout with an outbox

[20:44] < ms-munch> If it's a console based version, you could do UnixProcess("eliza -")

[20:44] < vmlemon_> Essentially, I'd wire it up to a UnixProcess with the Markov-making/"learning" bit?

[20:47] < vmlemon_> Ooh, crazy idea just arrived

[20:49] < vmlemon_> Integrate Macro with the basic bot code and a Markov machine, for some seriously twisted fun...

[20:50] < vmlemon_> IRC recording arguments, complete with complaining bot

[20:50] < vmlemon_> ;)

[20:53] < ms-munch> subtitles -> markov chain you mean?

[20:54] < vmlemon_> Aha

[20:54] < vmlemon_> kamaeliabot Does Ready Steady Cook?

[20:55] < vmlemon_> I suppose guide data might be fun, ton

[20:55] < vmlemon_> *too

[20:57] < vmlemon_> Bonus points if you find a way to make it eat the Polistream Encoder dummy stuff, too

[20:58] < vmlemon_> (gets broadcast nightly, for some reason, or did a few days ago)

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[21:12] < ms-munch> :)

[21:17] *** vmlemon_ never knew there was a place named "Surprise" in the USA

[21:54] < ms-munch> well, that's a surprise

[21:54] < ms-munch> < /so-obvious-it's-painful>

[21:55] < vmlemon_> Hah

[22:08] < vmlemon_> I take it that Kamaelia's demultiplexing components are intended to be used when you, A: know the PIDs you want, and B: only have data from a single multiplex in your TS file?

[22:13] *** vmlemon_ plays with the BouncingCatGame

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[22:16] < vmlemon_> Damn,

[22:16] < vmlemon_> File "./Simplegame.py", line 61, in < module>

[22:16] < vmlemon_> cat_pop_wav = pygame.mixer.Sound(cat_pop_wav_file)

[22:16] < vmlemon_> pygame.error: mixer system not initialized