[00:00] < Davbo> :-)

[00:00] < Davbo> He was really cool actually, that was an extreme moment ;-)

[00:01] < Davbo> he'd be half way through the lecturer then go on a rant about something for 20 minutes

[00:02] < vmlemon_> What happened to the (presumably) wrecked keyboard?

[00:02] < Davbo> hmm, we had rants on...The Monarchy, Local Restaurants hmm can't remember what else atm

[00:02] < j_baker> I had a prof who I swear was paid on commission by the Visual Studio team.

[00:02] < Davbo> don't know we left then, but he did let the computer services guys know about it

[00:03] < j_baker> The strangest part was when he told us all how much he hated windows vista.

[00:04] < Davbo> All our computers have touch screen monitors for presentations (well the ones in lecture theatres) - Thank god he never got angry with that, could imagine the stylus straight through the monitor :P

[00:04] < j_baker> That would be EXPENSIVE

[00:05] < vmlemon_> Ugh

[00:05] < Davbo> none of the computer science lecturers use them lol, quite funny.

[00:05] < Davbo> Some use over-head-projectors with acetates, and some just use the blackboards

[00:06] < Davbo> You're lucky if you get a presentation ;-)

[00:07] < Davbo> I couldn't imagine maths being taught without a blackboard though

[00:07] < vmlemon_> Nothing like wasting money on stuff that's seldom used ;)

[00:07] < Davbo> Exactly vmlemon_ nice to know my £3070/yr is being spent wisely

[00:08] < Davbo> Thank god i already live in Sheffield

[00:08] < j_baker> My school spent a shitload of money building a leisure pool.

[00:08] < j_baker> And our CS building still has only 2 classrooms. :(

[00:09] < vmlemon_> Classy...

[00:09] < Davbo> 'least you have a leisure pool though! :)

[00:09] < Davbo> ;-)

[00:10] < Davbo> What is your University j_baker?

[00:10] < j_baker> Texas Tech University

[00:11] < Davbo> ah, cool.

[00:11] < vmlemon_> Except it would be nigh-on impossible to do do IT stuff in the said pool ;)

[00:11] < j_baker> Nothing a Panasonic ToughBook couldn't handle.

[00:12] < Davbo> Must be warm though, can see a use for it :)

[00:13] < j_baker> That's true. It's 7 PM here and it's still 95 degrees F.

[00:14] < Davbo> Yikes

[00:14] < j_baker> (don't ask me what that is in Celsius :) )

[00:14] < Davbo> I wouldn't last a week over in Texas

[00:14] < vmlemon_> No algae in it?

[00:14] < Davbo> You can't moan about the weather when it's constantly warm

[00:15] < j_baker> I like the warm better than the cold.

[00:16] < Davbo> We're slightly more melancholic over the pond ;-)

[00:16] < Davbo> We like it dreary

[00:16] < vmlemon_> Ach, I doubt I'd last over there, I get sunburn quickly

[00:16] < j_baker> The problem with our weather though is the wind. It's theorized that West Texans talk the way we do because of all the dust that's in the air.

[00:16] < Davbo> Really?

[00:17] < Davbo> Hmm, is a West Texan accent different to the stereotypical Texan?

[00:18] < Davbo> Also, s/theorized/theorised ;-)

[00:18] < j_baker> Watch a West Texan talk. You'll notice we don't open our mouths very much.

[00:18] < Davbo> hah

[00:18] < j_baker> Well, it depends on the stereotypical Texan accent.

[00:19] < j_baker> Yeah, there are a lot of people out here with pretty bad drawls though.

[00:19] < j_baker> I used to sell computers and I had one woman come in asking me if we carried Dales.

[00:19] < Davbo> Well, I don't know if you've heard a Yorkshire accent....but it's not desirable

[00:19] < j_baker> It took me forever to figure out that she meant Dell.

[00:19] < vmlemon_> .o

[00:19] < Davbo> lol

[00:20] < vmlemon_> o.O

[00:21] < j_baker> The worst that I've ever heard is actually from St Johns in Canada. Imagine a weird mix of Canadian, Irish, and French accents.

[00:21] < j_baker> They almost sound like the Pikies from Snatch. :)

[00:21] < vmlemon_> Canirch! ;)

[00:22] < j_baker> Anyway, I'm about to go get ready for a concert I'm going to. Later guys!

[00:23] < Davbo> Alright, cya j_baker :-)

[00:23] *** Davbo is still laughing at Dales and Dells

[00:25] < vmlemon_> Did she ever get her Dale compudah? (IRC sucks for trying to imitate spoken accents...) ;)

[00:26] < Davbo> Hehe

[00:27] < Davbo> Well I'm off to bed, night vmlemon_ - Anyone else lurking at this time :-)

[00:27] < vmlemon_> Night

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[07:17] < vmlemon_> Hi

[07:18] < vmlemon_> Any idea why the link on the Kamaelia Spam Assistant page goes to http://bbcxue404.national.core.bbc.co.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=https://kamaelia.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/kamaelia/trunk/Sketches/MPS/POP3/spam_deletion_assistant.py (which doesn't seem to be globally accessible), as opposed to directly to the SVN URL?

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[14:40] < vmlemon_> Hi

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[16:30] < ms-> Afternoon

[16:31] < ms-> Hiya Chong- - have you been ill ? ( I saw no checkins, no attendance at the weekly meeting, no DONE/TODO/BLOCKED, schedule which I'd asked for )

[16:31] < ms-> (being ill and no prior warning of being away strike me as the only reasonable explanation)

[16:32] *** ms- notes Davbo must be off having fun

[16:33] < ms-> I've discovered where the bug lies in the multiprocess stuff.

[16:33] < ms-> It's in LikeFile (again)

[16:33] < Chong-> Hi Michael

[16:33] < ms-> Have you been ill? Away on holiday?

[16:34] < Chong-> no, i'm fine.

[16:34] < Chong-> I have been to the Bath show last week.

[16:35] < Chong-> in the week meeting of the week before last week, I mentioned this and said I would miss the meeting

[16:35] < Chong-> you might not notice it.

[16:35] < ms-> You said you would miss a meeting

[16:35] < ms-> I presume you have a week's worth of checkins then?

[16:36] < Chong-> oh. I may have misled you. ;)

[16:36] < ms-> And you've done the schedule?

[16:36] < Chong-> The show lasts one week's,

[16:36] < ms-> You blew off the entire first week of the coding period without any notice that you were going to do that?

[16:36] < ms-> How many other weeks are you planning on doing that?

[16:37] < ms-> What is this "Bath Show" ?

[16:38] < ms-> I'm pretty bloody tempted to drop you from the programme at this instant. Disappearing for a week with warning is OK (assuming agreed), disappearing without warning isn't acceptable

[16:38] < Chong-> it's a mixture, mainly agriculture, but also has technology and others.

[16:38] < Chong-> I and one teacher from the university work with "walking with robots" to give a show about robots.

[16:39] < ms-> URL

[16:39] < ms-> How long have you known you weren't going to be around that week for?

[16:40] < Chong-> Sorry. I thought I had informed you about the event in that week's meeting.

[16:40] < ms-> ie when did you first know you were not going to be around

[16:40] < ms-> "kamaelia2008-05-22_log.html: < tr>< td>[15:53] < Chong-> MS-: I will go to the Bath show next week, so I cannot take meeting, either.< /td>< /tr>"

[16:40] < ms-> That's a big difference from "I'm going to disappear for a complete week"

[16:40] < ms-> "and this is the only warning I'm giving you"

[16:41] < Chong-> Sorry. I should have said it clearly.

[16:41] < ms-> I first asked for people to warn me when they would be away during the application period

[16:41] < ms-> Yes, you should have done

[16:41] < ms-> You were as far as I'm concerned awol

[16:42] < ms-> If the only incentive we have to encourage you to work on your project is "you're being paid by google to work full time on your project" then that's a pretty poor incentive

[16:42] < Chong-> It's very famous, and last one week, I think you should know it :(

[16:42] < Chong-> sorry again.

[16:42] < ms-> *WHICH* show

[16:42] < Chong-> royal Bath and west show

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[19:39] *** vmlemon_ tries to find a way to cheat at solving the Rubik's Cube...

[19:39] < Chong-> vmlemon_: the show was very great. it's mainly agriculture, but also has other science, entertainment, clothing shows.

[19:40] < Chong-> The horse show, cow show, dog show, cat show are all very interesting.

[19:43] < Chong-> Davbo: yes. I totally agree with you. MS and other mentors have done a lot of jobs to help us even though they do not get any pay from this.

[19:43] Reply: Hi, I'm a bot. I've been put here to answer faq's and log the channel. You can find the logs at http://yeoldeclue.com/logs/ Please don't ask 'any mentors here' since I'm logging for them. Yes, there is. If you just ask you question

[19:43] Reply: or post your idea, you may get a response - either from a mentor or fellow student or from someone reading the logs.

[19:43] Reply: Regarding applications we will be discussing applications (and maybe asking for improvements) until April 7th or 8th - remember no news may well be good news

[19:43] Reply: Some useful links/tips - use the template : http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/SummerOfCode2006Template - base page: http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/SummerOfCode

[19:43] Reply: Tips for a good application - q's to ask yourself: http://yeoldeclue.com/cgi-bin/blog/blog.cgi?rm=viewpost&nodeid=1206709783

[19:43] < Chong-> As I have said, It's my fault that I have not said it clearly. I really should have said it clearly.

[19:44] < Davbo> Only one thing to do now, grovel with MS :-)

[19:44] < Chong-> kamaeliabot is coming back. :-)

[19:47] < Chong-> Davbo: :-)

[19:50] < vmlemon_> I'm sure that harmony will be restored, soon ;)

[19:50] < vmlemon_> And daisies will bloom once again...

[19:51] < vmlemon_> ;)

[19:51] < Chong-> Thank you very much for your goodwill, vmlemon_.

[19:51] < vmlemon_> What sort of sciency stuff did they have?

[19:52] < Chong-> our show is mainly about robots

[19:52] < vmlemon_> Hah, it was intended to be slightly sarcastic, but nice to hear that it also happens to be goodwill ;)

[19:53] < Chong-> there are also green cars, royal army engineering, royal navy, airbus and so on

[19:53] < vmlemon_> Aah

[19:53] < Chong-> hehe

[19:53] < vmlemon_> Sounds interesting

[19:54] < Chong-> yes. it's pretty cool.

[19:55] *** vmlemon_ didn't know that cow-showing was a popular past-time...

[19:55] < Chong-> One guy whom I worked with made a lot of robots himself for more than 20 years.

[19:57] *** Davbo needs to buy a new calculator for his exam

[19:57] < Davbo> mine isn't allowed :(

[19:57] < Chong-> Davbo: why not

[19:57] *** vmlemon_ hands Davbo a new (knitted) calculator ;)

[19:57] < Davbo> It's too good Chong-

[19:58] < Chong-> eeepc :-)

[19:58] < Davbo> lol, not that :-)

[19:58] < vmlemon_> One of the programmable ones?

[19:58] < Davbo> Yeah it's a graphing programmable calculator

[19:58] < vmlemon_> The World's Biggest Calculator

[19:59] < vmlemon_> EEEcalculator ;)

[19:59] < Chong-> hehe

[19:59] < Davbo> the worlds biggest calculator is also ironically one of the worlds smallest laptops :D

[20:00] < vmlemon_> Or would that be a CalcHD® (High-Definition Calculator)? ;)

[20:00] < vmlemon_> (Coming soon to a store near you)

[20:00] < Davbo> When they argue about why i can't use the EEE I could retort "Yes, but when does a calculator become a laptop"

[20:00] < vmlemon_> Well, you could run bc in full-screen mode

[20:01] < Davbo> not sure they'd appreciate it though

[20:02] < vmlemon_> Do they make calculators with x86 CPUs and Ethernet/Wi-Fi connectivity? ;)

[20:03] < vmlemon_> Although that would be overkill for a calculator

[20:03] < vmlemon_> Not to mention the "awesome" boot time

[20:03] < Davbo> I've had an integration take over 4 minutes on my calculator

[20:03] < vmlemon_> Ouch

[20:05] < Davbo> it was accurate though

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[22:00] < ms-> Chong-: Not sure if you're there, I have one question for you. When did you know that you would not be working last week? (earliest date that you knew it was a possibility)

[22:00] Reply: Hi, I'm a bot. I've been put here to answer faq's and log the channel. You can find the logs at http://yeoldeclue.com/logs/ Please don't ask 'any mentors here' since I'm logging for them. Yes, there is. If you just ask you question

[22:00] Reply: or post your idea, you may get a response - either from a mentor or fellow student or from someone reading the logs.

[22:00] Reply: Regarding applications we will be discussing applications (and maybe asking for improvements) until April 7th or 8th - remember no news may well be good news

[22:00] Reply: Some useful links/tips - use the template : http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/SummerOfCode2006Template - base page: http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/SummerOfCode

[22:00] Reply: Tips for a good application - q's to ask yourself: http://yeoldeclue.com/cgi-bin/blog/blog.cgi?rm=viewpost&nodeid=1206709783

[22:01] < ms-> kamaeliabot: die

[22:04] < vmlemon_> Hi ms-

[22:05] < ms-> vmlemon_: Hi

[22:07] < ms-> kamaeliabot: reload Kamaelia.Apps.IRCLogger.Support.py

[22:07] 'Kamaelia.Apps.IRCLogger.Support.py' isn't a module, or at least not one I can reload.

[22:07] < ms-> kamaeliabot: reload Kamaelia.Apps.IRCLogger.Support

[22:07] 'Kamaelia.Apps.IRCLogger.Support' reloaded

[22:07] < ms-> anyone

[22:07] < ms-> anyone know

[22:07] Reply: Hm?

[22:07] < ms-> anyone know when

[22:07] Reply: Hm?

[22:08] < ms-> retrying this, which should not trigger any messages now:

[22:08] < ms-> Chong-: Not sure if you're there, I have one question for you. When did you know that you would not be working last week? (earliest date that you knew it was a possibility)

[22:10] < ms-> Well, I think 10 minutes is long enough to find out if he is here or not, I assume not.

[22:10] *** ms- resends the same q via email

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[23:04] < Chong-> ms-: sorry for missing your message. I was just busy with coding and have not checked the channel for some time.

[23:04] < Chong-> Since you're not here, I'll reply to you through e-mail shortly.